DCRoach4Congress: MARLIN STUTZMAN VOTED AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION! 4th Amendment/ NSA)

Thursday, July 25, 2013

MARLIN STUTZMAN VOTED AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION! 4th Amendment/ NSA)

Jack Flick

It's shameful that you voted for unconstitutional record collection instead of privacy!
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Tom Palermo

Congressman, on voting "No" on the Amash ammendment against NSA spying on Americans you have lost my future support to remain in office. I will be supporting a real Conservative who will stand by his oath to uphold our Constitution.

Shame on YOU!!!!
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Michelle More

Did you seriously vote "No" on the Amash ammendment against NSA spying on Americans? I will make sure everyone remembers that come election time.
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Jack Flick I am sure he probably didn't even read it. Which is even worse.

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Thomas H. Roach II

I just wanted to let you know that you have potentially lost my vote over your decision to oppose the amendment defunding part of the NSA. If you people don't do what you can to rein that agency in, I guess we'll have to find people that will do the proper job.
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Patrick Mericle

What about last nights vote, you know we do not support it?
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Bud Goggans

Congressman Stutzman, why did you vote no on the NSA bill last night?
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Ron Johnson

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Derek Van Til I agree with you Dr./Pastor.

7 hours ago

Ken Christensen While I agree with everything in your first paragraph, I'm also technical enough to know that blocking doesn't completely work. It just makes it more difficult, and potentially runs the risk of blocking things that we wouldn't want blocked.

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5 hours ago

Mike Conyers

Please explain, in clear and honest terms, why you plainly voted against Representative Amash's amendment to the Defense Appropriations bill. I am very interested in your reasoning behind allowing the virtually-unaccountable NSA to continue blatantly violating American citizens and residents Constitutionally-protected right to unreasonable search and seizure via the massive, overwhelming telephone and internet wiretapping, storage, indexing, and retention programs they are engaging in. Perhaps someone has made mention to you that they are engendering significant distrust of our Government, and contributing greatly to social unrest, particularly among the educated working class? When you were elected, you were not being put in a position of power to specifically address those who voted for you; you were put in a position of servitude for your entire district. You need to reassess your priorities, sir, and start acting to protect and care for the needs of the citizenry in Northeast Indiana.

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Judith Steckly This is one place Rep. Stutzman displayed some reasonableness because he listened to our military and other protectors who relayed the info that the surveillance saved lives and will continue to do so.

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Mike Conyers To say that is a bit of a stretch is to be overly tactful to the point of being ridiculous. They re unable to point to any specific instances of their widespread surveillance (also known as warrantless spying) of the American people has provided anything that would be considered beneficial to the same American people. We have a huge, unaccountable government organization that is making massive inroads into curtailing our liberties, and he wants this to continue unabated. I'm shocked at the sheer amount of cognitive dissonance it takes for his "small-government" supporters to defend such Government waste, abuse, and overreach.

5 hours ago · Like · 1

Mike Conyers If you would prefer a first-hand testimonial, re-read what I said. I'm a former active duty soldier, and a combat veteran of both Iraq and Afghanistan. When our government officials swear to uphold the US Constitution upon entering office, they should be held accountable, by whatever means necessary, when they fail to do so, or, in Congressman Stutzman's case, when they positively engage otherwise. It's absolutely shameful.

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Tom Palermo I understand why Comrade Steckly supports Stutsman's vote on this issue. Judith, why don't you move to a real Communist country instead of changing America to one?

about an hour ago · Like

Jack Flick Judith... I seriously think you need to read more into what is going on. Yes, the government does do some helpful spying in order to keep our troops safe. I will give you that. They also record every... single...small piece of data YOU have ever create...See More

51 minutes ago · Like · 1

Jack Flick Tom, it's things like what you just said that will never help the conversation. It in fact makes it much worse. Talk about facts, not personal opinions of another individual. Be mature.

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Dylan Kite

Eff You Congressman Marlin Stutzman, do you represent Indiana or lobbyists?

House Rejects Amendment to Defund NSA Program That Collects Millions of Americans’ Phone Records...
www.theblaze.com

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The House has voted to continue the collection of hundreds of millions of Americans' phone records in the fight against terrorism. The House rejected a measure to end the program's authority. The vote was 217-205 on Wednesday. Republican Rep. Justin Amash had challenged the...

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Andrew Pickett

Marlin, we appreciate the things you do to represent us, but we're a bit confused by your vote on the nsa collecting our data without cause. Can you please explain?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/24/house-rejects-amendment-to-defund-nsa-program-that-collects-millions-of-americans-phone-records-but-the-vote-was-closer-than-you-might-think/

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Gary Snyder Show

Good for you Congressman André Carson! Maybe Congressman Marlin Stutzman would have voted yes if their was a #FarmSubsidy check attached to it?

Indiana Talks

How did you Congressperson vote Wednesday on an amendment To Defund The NSA’s Domestic Phone Metadata Program?

Voting Yes

Congressman André Carson
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Melissa Burger I am sure he would have

11 hours ago · Like

Ryan Ripley Nah, Stutzman would have voted to split the bill in two and then only pass the one that puts money directly in his pocket.

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Tom Williamson

I wished you had supported the amendment to defund the NSA. Mr Clapper with the support of the White House is building a "Data Tower of Babel" and there is no doubt the data consolidation will be used against the citizens of America.

Your supporters should know that you supported spying on them and collecting data on them. I don't think any one believes the lie, " that this is for our safety" and you shouldn't either.

Please take a stance to stop this intrusion of privacy.

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Brad Jones

I am making it my personal goal to make sure Marlin Stutzman does not make a return trip to Washington DC in November, even if that means voting Democrat. The GOP voted overwhelmingly against the 4th Amendment yesterday, and it's time they pay. NOTHING else you do between now and November 2014 matters to me anymore. You're finished. You could be the driving force behind a personhood amendment that gets ratified before then and I STILL won't vote for you!!!! You could lead a successful impeachment of Obama, Holder and Biden and I STILL won't vote for him!!!! Mr. Stutzman, you are dead to me, sir. See you in 16 months!!!

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Ed Waldschmidt

It is funny, Mr. Stutzman. We all say absolute power corrupts absolutely, so why did you vote against trimming the wings of this corrupt administration?

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Jacob Jackson

Keep posting about what obama is doing wrong meanwhile you vote unconstitutionally on a critical issue the exact same day. Disgraceful.

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Mike Williams

Sad you voted to continue to allow the erosion of our 4th amendment rights.

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Jason Rajcany

Great job selling out the Republic (again) and voting against the Amash amendment. Talk about the constitution all you want when you're on WOWO those of us who don't get our info from some talk radio junkie down in Florida, an alcoholic flip flopper in Texas, or some neocon in New York, know what you really are. A Statist.

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Bobbie Stump

Today you voted to continue allowing the NSA to break our own laws and continue to spy on Americans without probable cause by not supporting Amash's amendment. By supporting a government that has no boundaries and thinks it can do whatever it wants, including stepping on the rights given to us in the U.S. Constitution, you've lost my vote. I will also campaign heavily for any true freedom-supporting candidate that runs against you next election.

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Gary Snyder Show

Call Pepper Hulette Snyder & Jennifer's Page at (260) 355-5151 and shame or praise your Congressperson for their vote on repeal of #NSA. Shame on Congresswoman Susan W. Brooks, Rep. Larry Bucshon, Rep. Jackie Walorski, Rep. Todd Young, Congressman Marlin Stutzman. Representative Todd Rokita didn't vote!

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Gary Snyder Show CALL!

20 hours ago · Like · 1

Gary Snyder Show VENT!

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Randy M. Obenchain So, the same people who bemoan the size of the Government are the sames ones who refused to cast a vote stopping the NSA from spying on American citizens?

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Gary Snyder Show 260-355-5151

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Ryan Ripley Amazed that Tea Party Todd couldn't be bothered to vote for a liberty-centric amendment... Where was Rokita?

20 hours ago · Like · 5

Andrew Smith Messer and Visclosky also need to be shamed.They also voted no.

20 hours ago · Like · 3

Andrew Markle Susan Brooks should have never won. Chard Reid was 100x better.

18 hours ago via mobile · Like · 2

Joseph Townsend I agree with you on something! LOL

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Joseph Townsend I would be interested in seeing the Democrat vs. republican votes on this as a whole.

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Pepper Hulette Snyderhttp://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll412.xml

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Joseph Townsend I'm surprised Michele Bachmann voted against this...

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Pepper Hulette Snyder Oh don't get me started on her. She was pretty vocally against it.

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Joseph Townsend HMM...guess I'll have to look into her reasoning. She is usually right on about these things.

12 hours ago · Like

Pepper Hulette Snyder Her reasoning is that phone companies own what's on our phone and that we shouldn't handcuff government.

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Joseph Townsend This bill goes beyond phone tapping though doesn't it? It goes into the wiretapping of emails as well, right?

12 hours ago · Like · 1

Pepper Hulette Snyder Yes. Our emails are on our phones now so bachmann thinks they're not really "ours" then.

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Joseph Townsend When it comes to wiretapping phones I have a different opinion than I'm sure Libertarians do. I believe that calls made to someone outside of the US can be wiretapped, as non-citizens are not protected by the Constitution. So therefore, it can be argue...See More

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Jimmy Paris http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2376615/NSA-claims-doesnt-technology-search-emails-sent-OWN-employees-despite-able-search-YOUR-electronic-data.html

11 hours ago · Like · 1

Ken Zuk ...if just the Indiana R's had voted for this it would have been within one vote of passing and supporting the 4th Amendment.

9 hours ago · Like · 3

Danny Turkette Gary Snyder has proven once again he's a low information radio talk show twerp.

1. It was an appropriations bill that de-funded EVERYTHING. There was no distinction between American and Foreign terrorists. Ended ALL funding to the NSA.

2. Due to this concern, they voted for the Nugent Amt that passed protecting the privacy rights for American Citizens (H.R. 2397) The Pompeo amendment prohibits funds from being used by the NSA to target a United States person or acquire and save contents of their communications, including emails and telephone calls. This measure specifically includes “any electronic communication” as a protected communication from federal surveillance. The Pompeo amendment passed with a vote of 409-12.

3. The Heritage organization opposed the Amash amt due to it not being Constitutional.

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Bill McKinzie

Mr. Stutzman, for a congressman who claims to be support the Constitution, you are failing miserably with your continued votes for the NDAA, CISPA and against the Amash amendment today.

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Carrie Kennedy Miller

I see you voted NO Justin Amash's amendment to stop NSA spying. Americans do not like to be spied on. Spying on us does not make us safer. Spying on us does not stop terrorist attacks. We do not want a police state where the Government can know whatever it wants about us.

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Justin Woodward

How could you vote today to allow the trashing of my Constitutional rights to continue? Deeply disappointed.

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Bud Brenneman

WTF Marlin???? Thanks for supporting the Constitution today...NOT!! This is Bullshit, plain and simple. You WILL be held accountable for this with my VOTE sir.

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Justin Geigley

It's hard to not feel betrayed that you voted no.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll412.xml

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Audrey Miller-Queckboerner

Shame on you Mr. Stutzman for once again voting against the first and fourth amendments to the Constitution by not voting in support of the Amash Amendment #100. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll412.xml

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Sam Ferree

Way to uphold the 4th amendment today..... You had ONE job!

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Mark Stout

http://wonkette.com/523518/these-millionaire-republican-congressmen-who-took-farm-aid-probably-really-needed-the-money

These Millionaire Republican Congressmen Who Took Farm Aid Probably Really Needed The Money
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Ed Waldschmidt Hey Mark, do you recognize the face in the picture? That is Biden.

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Mark Stout The text of the article seemed more important than the icon. When Wonkette makes me an editor, I'll be more careful about such things.

Yesterday at 6:45pm · Like

Ed Waldschmidt I know but the blame goes to the democrats as well not just one side over the other.

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Bud posted a photo to Congressman Marlin Stutzman's timeline.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=584713014913052&set=a.115319045185787.25319.100736243310734&type=1&theater

The House will vote today on Department of Defense Appropriations Bill. A vote for this Bill w/out the Justin Amash Amendment or the Thomas Massey Amendment wi...See More

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Bud Brenneman Defund these guys...the IRS, the DHS, the CIA, and Obama Care for a start!!!

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Bud Brenneman Thanks Marlin...NOT!!!

22 hours ago · Like · 1

Bud Brenneman Please Explain Your Reasoning Marlin...Do Tell WHY you chose to go against the wishes of both HOOSIERS AND The United States Constitution!

22 hours ago · Like · 1

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John Kaufeld

Representative Stutzman,

Please support Representative Amash's bill to rein in the NSA's unlawful monitoring of American citizens. This needs to stop. Period.

The White House Doesn't Like the House's Data Mining Amendment
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The White House weighed in on an amendment, slated for an imminent vote in the House, that would defund the National Security Agency's bulk phone metadata collection. Spoiler alert: they're against it. Here's the full statement from Press Secretary Jay Carney on the proposed amendment to the Defense...

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Audrey Miller-Queckboerner He didn't support the amendment.http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll412.xml

23 hours ago · Like

Bud Brenneman THE BASTARD!

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John Kaufeld Sadly, does this really surprise anyone? We did not send a logical, thinking man to represent us in Congress.

21 hours ago · Like · 1

Audrey Miller-Queckboerner John, he's only reflecting the voters. They don't care to understand the Constitution or follow it. They don't think. They don't study the issues. They just push the R button every two years and pat themselves on the back thinking they've done their duty while this nation continues to plummet down the toilet.

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Audrey Miller-Queckboerner

Congressman Stutzman, please do not listen to the lie that providing for the "common defense" means that you can vote to violate American citizens 1st and 4th Amendment rights. Please support support Rep. Amash’s amendment to prevent the blanket surveillance of U.S. citizens by the NSA under Section 215 of the so-called “Patriot” Act.

House to Debate Curb on NSA Surveillance
thenewamerican.com

The U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday is scheduled to debate an amendment to curb the National Security Agency's collection of records of billions of phone calls. by Jack Kenny

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Toby Spidey-Man Lamp

http://amash.house.gov/speech/amash-nsa-amendment-fact-sheet

Amash NSA Amendment Fact Sheet | Congressman Justin Amash
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On Wednesday, the House will have its first floor debate over NSA’s blanket collection of Americans’ telephone records. The Amash-Conyers amendment—and only the Amash-Conyers amendment—ends the indiscriminate collection of those records. The amendment limits the government’s collection of records…

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Audrey Miller-Queckboerner He didn't support the amendment:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll412.xml

23 hours ago · Like

Toby Spidey-Man Lamp Welp, I suppose that's what elections are for. Privacy & government limitations are kinda big deals to me.

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Judith Steckly

Rep. Stutzman, will you be holding public meetings so your constituents can talk with you during August?

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Ryan Ripley I'd love to talk to him about the Amash Amendment...

10 hours ago · Like

Ed Waldschmidt And how to stop Obamacare.

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Troy Blanchard

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/22/Poll-illegal-immigrants-Democrat

Just in case you missed it, this will be the end of the GOP if this gets passed, I wont even waste my time voting anymore.

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Doug Bultemeyer Look at Boehner worst leader in congress we've ever had. I take that back MCConnell is tied with him.

Monday at 7:48pm · Like · 1

Judith Steckly First, how many times does Briebart have to be proven wrong, even making up stories, before you stop reading what he has to say? Second, assuming that a group of people will remain in a voting pattern is discounting education and experiences the individuals will have.

Tuesday at 6:44pm · Like · 1

Troy Blanchard Um, yes, Breitbart always wrong or outright lying, just like NBC and CNN I guess.

Tuesday at 7:37pm · Like

Troy Blanchard http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/22/are-unauthorized-immigrants-overwhelmingly-democrats/

If miss the right is always lying would care to look, Breitbart linked to the study that was done. But hey, because it on breitbart its a lye. Sources dont lye, truth has no agenda, unlike the MSM of the alphabet news outlets who's have covered for the left time and time again and wont call out the very same thing that they crucified Bush for. Its about time you get off that band wagon Judith, it has no credibility left with us. But oh yes, media matters does ( not ).

Are unauthorized immigrants overwhelmingly Democrats?
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Troy Blanchard You should be happy for these results Judith, it means your going to get exactly what your fighting for. The Dems will walk all over the GOP with these facts, with 20 to 30 million new voters who have HISTORICALLY gone left since 86, for some unknown reason voting for the exact thing they left behind south of the boarder. You should be over whelmed with glee at the news, people like the Congressman will not be able to hold his job. Its what you have been going for on here.

Tuesday at 7:46pm · Like

Ed Waldschmidt Judith, how many times have you been proven wrong? Obama is stinking as a President and the Republicans are not doing the right thing for our country by impeaching him.

Tuesday at 7:52pm · Like

Troy Blanchard Ed, Im convinced that Judith would argue with us if we posted a link from Fox, Glenn Beck or Breitbart saying the sky was blue today. After all, we all know they all lie ( cough cough )

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Lora Gilliland-Gage https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1005450_552469491455401_405907436_n.jpg

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Lora Gilliland-Gage i am strangely comforted by the comments from the uneducated 'right', lol.

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Ed Waldschmidt Actually, your ignorance makes me feel comfortable. somehow, in your world 2 + 2 = 6.

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Cathy Pridgen Cross

Want us to trust you? Here's how.

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Jeffrey W Williams

Obamacare is the reason I was able to get insurance. It is the reason I was able to cover my step-daughter while she was in nursing school. It is the reason my friends with a hemophiliac son no longer have to worry about the lifetime cap on the policy. I have sent you numerous emails from your website which you have ignored. Finally after months and numerous attempts I got a canned response from you, probably from one of your aides, that didn't have anything to do with the emails I sent. You are a disgrace and do not listen to your constituents. Obamacare is not perfect but it is not the devil that you make it out to be and you should be CONSTRUCTIVELY trying to improve any and all legislation, not just being a sound byte echo chamber.

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Troy Blanchard You know, when Congress decides they want to be part of the ACA, when all the unions decide they want to be part of the ACA, when all the waivers are retracted, we'll talk. Until those who fought for this thing the most turn around and dig in like it was a pork sandwich, kiss off. Those who planned this thing are all saying it sucks, 6 in 10 doctors say it sucks, till that changes for the better it sucks. These are the people who KNOW what it is, and they say its off the rails. As for the being constructive in helping it, ya that ship sailed when the dems decided they didnt want any one from the GOP there to write the bill behind closed doors. Major fail.

Monday at 7:16pm · Like · 1

Jeffrey W Williams The bill, ACA, is what republicans counter proposed to Hillary care. I have had many surgeries from some great surgeries and they all support ACA.

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Jeffrey W Williams From great surgeons, i meant. You should do some research. ACA is republican legislation.

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Ed Waldschmidt The ACA act will end up bankrupting this nation. What scares me is that no one seems to care about this. Look at Medicare. According to the CBO and the Medicare actuaries Medicare will go bankrupt by 2026. Nothing from the Feds ever works the way it is intended. People in their 50's and are healthy by all projections will see their premiums go up by about 70%. why? Because the cost has to be made up somewhere. Employers are cutting hours of people who use to be full time. Employers are delaying hiring decisions or laying people off. It seems to me, that some of the good benefits of this bill are outweighed by the negatives. Repeal it and start over.

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Jeffrey W Williams Nothing from the FED ever works? Hello, Social Security. Seniors were the only group that didn't suffer during the recession and Social Security is solvent. In fact under Obama he raised the current lifetime to 12 years (from memory on number of years). Medicare is NOT ACA, stop confusing the two as the same thing, they aren't. ACA is a set of laws, not a health plan. The government (back in the 50's as I recall, perhaps 60's also built all the Interstates and that had a huge positive influence in our country. So has FEMA (except when George Bush was President). There are many many examples of the Government working and working well. We just need bad politicians like Mr. Slutzman to start doing their job and stop taking Farm bill money because he isn't farming from Washington because he isn't farming from there.

Tuesday at 5:29pm · Like

Ed Waldschmidt You believe in SS. It is going bankrupt. Medicare will go bankrupt by 2026 and SS sometime later around 2030. But lets keep kicking the can down road. Why not. We are only 17.5 trillion in long term debt. So, why not.
If you knew about SS and Medicare, you would know it relies on people working to pay in for the ones who are drawing it. By about 2018 for the first time for both, the number of people drawing it will surpass the people paying into these funds.
But, keep believing the lies about these funds. There is not a trust fund.
FEMA has not work well under this administration, just ask the people impacting by Hurricane Sandy. And before you say Congress was at fault, the same argument could be used for Bush. FEMA is worthless and gets in the way of help.

Tuesday at 7:58pm · Like

Jeffrey W Williams SS does work and every political cycle people like you try to scare everyone about it. And this has been going on for a really really really long time and guess what, it keeps going. SS in and of itself is very solvent if congress woulds stop stealing from it. FEMA has worked very well. Obama and FEMA have gotten a lot of praise for republicans and democrats alike. Not everyone will be happy, just like when I deal with computer problems for someone, they are at their worst and of course they complain. When your house goes away you REALLY complain even when FEMA does everything they can. I do fault Bush for not going to New Orleans and ignoring them, but you can keep on loving and defending him. I am waiting for you to actually give some facts instead of typed sound bytes that lack substance which has completely detracted from my original post above. You are definitely a Republican because you act like one. SOP, change the subject and attack without substance. ACA has already helped me and many others, FACT. And BTW I was technical professional making 6 figures at a full time job and making substantial income from consulting. So don't say I am living off the government or other Republican arguments. Simply because I had one back surgery (later I had another and two neck surgeries) I was denied health coverage by EVERY COMPANY. Now I can get insurance. THAT IS A FACT and you CAN'T ignore it. ANd don't get me started on my autistic son I raise alone and what insurance companies have been doing to him and me for years and years that now they can't do anymore.

Tuesday at 8:06pm · Like

Ed Waldschmidt I guess the CBO and the Medicare actuaries are dumb and you know better because it is from them that I got the dates.
Were you involved in any of the recovery efforts for New Orleans? The problems there was the Mayor of the city. I was involved because an office for a company I worked with was under water. FEMA was there but the mayor did not allow them in.
God bless you for caring for your son, and I do say some points of this law are good, but the negative out weigh any of the positive.

Tuesday at 8:18pm · Like

Ed Waldschmidt http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RS20946.pdf

Tuesday at 8:18pm · Like

Jeffrey W Williams Ed, I have been talking about SS (Social Security). But since confused the two, I will address your post. ACA helps medicare. The issue with medicare and health care in general is a COST issue from hospitals, doctors. etc. We all know that. Obamacare cuts and limits some of those cost but it needs to go further. We all know that. But stop blaiming Obama for that. The fact is that medicare is the only system where the cost are controlled and a big part of why it works so well. Regarding your PDF link, it supports what i said about SS (applying to medicare in this case). Year after year going back decades there has been discussion about the projected insolvency of SS and Medicare. It is a good thing to track and discuss, but the fact is that both will go on for decades to come and are financially doing well. The government monitors it and makes adjustments to keep it solvent. But again, the biggest impact on this is the cost passed on to us and our insurance companies by healthcare providers. We have all heard about the $120 Q tips on insurance bills and other similar outrageous billing.

Yesterday at 3:20pm · Like

Ed Waldschmidt But still 2026 is not to far away. This will go bankrupt because of simple math. The number of workers contributing is reducing and the number of people get these funds is increasing. Sooner than you think, we will not match worker for recipient.
You have to remember that the first part of the baby boomers are set to retire I believe in 2015 or so. Then, the number dramatically increases year over year. The funds can't go on indefinitely.

Yesterday at 5:09pm · Edited · Like

Ed Waldschmidt http://hotair.com/archives/2013/03/28/cnn-hey-were-americans-misled-about-the-costs-of-obamacare/

Yesterday at 5:10pm · Like

Jeffrey W Williams This has happened before, Obama actually extended that time frame and it is just projection and it is 13 years away, a lot will happen in that timeframe. Page 7 of the PDF you linked to clearly shows the history of this. It shows year for year what the projection was. In 1970 it was projected to only last two years. HOLY COW, oh wait that was over 40 years ago and it is still going strong, even better compared to that 2 year projection. Are you getting what i am saying here? In 1971 they said it would only last until 1973 (they were wrong). In fact compared to history it is doing much much better now.

Yesterday at 5:10pm · Like

Jeffrey W Williams Ed, you can keep changing from bashing Medicare to bashing ACA. The fact is there are millions of people like me, good people, good parents, have or had good jobs, that get huge benefit from the legislation. You can't stop it, but I am ok if you want to keep burning energy trying to fight it. I would actually respect you if you spent your energy bashing insurance companies and hospitals where the blame actually belongs, instead of Obama for being the ONLY President to do something about it. It helped me and and a few of my friends big time. Also, my sister now has health insurance because of the law. Her employer would never offer it and now they do because they have to.

Yesterday at 5:13pm · Like

Ed Waldschmidt Jeff, but in the 70's there were 4.75 workers per every recipient. Now there is 2.5 per recipient. If this trend does not reverse there is nothing anyone can do for Medicare.
I am against ACA for two main reasons. One health insurance is the most heavily state regulated industry and the rates are set by the state depending on losses in that state. Insurance companies maintain a surplus in order to cover losses. By making these companies refund the surplus year over year it could be catastrophic for the company. A guaranteed payor system will end up bankrupting allot of insurance companies. If that happens, who picks up the tab?
Secondly, by forcing companies and religious institutions to provide certain coverages goes against the first amendment.
I am happy that you have coverage. I do have a question though. I was an independent contractor early in my career and carried health insurance on my self. Of course, I had to pick it up but it guaranteed that there was no pre-existing conditions. I am not trying to pry, but understand if you had coverage prior to your illness.

Yesterday at 5:33pm · Like

Ed Waldschmidt I have personally had bad experiences with Medicare and Social Security. I wish I had the money to invest because I could do better.

Yesterday at 5:35pm · Like

Jeffrey W Williams I had coverage, I worked for a company and made a huge salary. Then I had to have neck and back surgery (double surgery) and my cobra got exhausted (several surgeries later) and after telling any company I called that I even had one back surgery I was denied, denied, denied. The problem with your arguments above is that they are very complex and the fact is that our government will do what needs to be done to adjust whatever needs to be adjusted. The "graph" clearly shows that is the case. There is no smoking gun here. And as for ACA and insurance companies, ARE YOU SERIOUS? You are worried they may go bankrupt? No offense, but that is laughable and is not going to happen. They make PLENTY of money. I will give you credit, I haven't seen anyone or any politician argue that we need to worry about United Healthcare going bankrupt LMAO

Yesterday at 5:37pm · Like

Jeffrey W Williams Ed, I agree with you that a person can invest better. But if you know anything about the history of SS and why it was started and just how people are in general. Most won't invest and end up poor and homeless. SS is necessary until/unless you can figure out how to make everyone responsible, which is impossible.

Yesterday at 5:41pm · Like

Jeffrey W Williams Even the Republican idea of privatizing it and letting people opt out is very flawed. Most will opt out, and won't plan or unforeseen circumstances will get in the way, then they will be old and poor and homeless JUST LIKE it was when SS was first formed and for the same reasons.

Yesterday at 5:42pm · Like

Ed Waldschmidt SS was only suppose to be a 5 year program. I think you should have a choice of 7.5% investing yourself or it will go into SS. That is the only option.

Yesterday at 5:48pm · Like

Jeffrey W Williams I have never heard that 5 year thing, in fact is doesn't make sense considering how SS works. I agree with the choice except many will choose to keep the money, they won't invest it, and then our society will have poor homeless old people to take care of again, so I would say no.

Yesterday at 5:50pm · Like

Ed Waldschmidthttp://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2011/03/04/private-insurer-profits-13-billion-medicare-fraud-48-billion-health-reform-priceless/

Yesterday at 5:52pm · Like

Ed Waldschmidt SS was part of the SEC act of 1931 and originally slated to go out in 5 years.
The choice is either invest it or put it in SS. No other option.

Yesterday at 5:54pm · Like

Jeffrey W Williams I still don't know that is true but i will research it. I have seen newspaper clippings of the time and it was clear the problem was old people who couldn't take care of themselves. Either way, if that is true, congress changed it and we have what we have and it is very successful and millions depend on it. I am not really sure what your point is here. Arguing against the necessity for SS is like arguing against the need for oxygen.

Yesterday at 6:01pm · Like

Ed Waldschmidt agreed that it was changed but I would rather have the option of Social Security or myself investing it. I don't like the idea of another tax with out having any say in it. I would prefer taking care of it myself.
the small amount of money that my mom gets and that at the end of the year having her Social Security taxed is appalling.
We can do better. She did not make more than 30 K. There is allot wrong with our economy and we need to get people to work. ACA is causing employers to move full time people to part time. How is that helping? I am saying it needs to be redone.

Yesterday at 6:42pm · Like

Jeffrey W Williams If redone means "modified", I would support that. The fact is the ACA was the Bob Dole and Republican counter offer to HillaryCare back when Bill was President. It was THEIR ideas. Personal responsibility (the get insurance or pay a tax part) is defini...See More

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Ed Waldschmidt You need to stop the Republican blame. I could say that if the Democrats gave a crap about bipartisan then in 2010 it would have had more than 219 votes in the House. They would have originated the bill in the proper chamber and garner 2/3 's votes....See More

Yesterday at 7:09pm · Like

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